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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Anoosh Tariq on Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:50 am

shadi jo hu gai hey un ki Smile

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Smart Aleck on Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:17 pm

Najma, sir hi hilaati rehti ho... itna bhi na howa keh Qamar ki post quote kar deti... Kam az kam mera dil to yoon dharka na hota Cool

Thanks my bro Anoosh Smile

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Anoosh Tariq on Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:06 am

arey is main thanx ki kiya baat hey mujhey tu apa sherminda ker rahey hain S.A Embarassed

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by heartbreakking on Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:04 pm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. reading all discussion what so ever.

no comments from my side just

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Prince on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:33 am

salam dosto.... anoosh, sa oor najma nay ju kuch likha main uss say agreed hoon... ek oor arz karna chahta hoon keh mehrbani karkay iss kisam kay topic ziada say ziada discuss karain takeh sab ko faida ho.. oor agar sath main hawala bhi dia jaey tu InshaAllah bahut behtar hoga..

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Smart Aleck on Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:16 am

W. Salam... Prince ... aap bhi iss naik kaam main hissa lejiay na... aap koi topic shoro kejiay Smile
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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by baychain on Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:27 am

salam
mainay topic aur discussion parha hai hiduism n christanity k origin k baray mai bohat ache information the
n ye baat dill ko cho lenay walli the k hamain ghor karna chaheye k kahen hum shaitan k jaal mai to nahe a rahay hain
may ALAH bless u najma sister
n haan kuch batoun say mai agree nahe karti jinn ka jawab mai apko inshalah jald he hawalay and dalaieel k sath doun gi.
berhaal bohat ache koshish the
n i pray k ALAH hum sub ko SIRAT E MUSTAKEEM per chalnay aur dosroun ko chalanay ki taofeek aata karay.

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Anoosh Tariq on Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:30 am

Aameen
apa ki aara ka itnizaar rahey ga

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by heartbreakking on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:20 am

mujay be
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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by baychain on Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:43 am

salam,
shuru uss pak parwardigar k naam say k jiss k qabza-e-qudrat mai hum sub ki jaan hai aur jo wahid aur yakta hai aur tamam kayenaat ka khalik o malik hai.
apni baat shuru karnay say phelay mai sub say ye kehna chatti houn k mera maksad kisi firkay ko attack karna nahe.
sub say phelay ye dekhtay hain k YA MOHAMMAD MADAD ka matlab kya hai yaani (AE MOHAMMAD MERI MADAD KIJIYE) yaani aasan alfaz mai kaha jae to hum NABBI KAREEM s.w say madad talab kar rahay hotay hain.
Akser log ye kehtay hain k aisa kehna shirk ya pher extra akeedat ya gumrahi mai shumar hotta hai q k madad karnay walli sirf khuda ki zaat hai lekin khuda takk pohonchanay k liye hamain kisi madad ki zarorat to ho gi na jissay aap WASILLA keh lain.
Jiss ka QURAN mai hukam ALAH TALAH is tarha daita hai:
"aaye wo logo! jo imaan la chukay ho,khuda say darro aur uski taraf pohonchnay k liye wassila talash karo aur uski rah mai jihaad karo" (surah e maida ayat 35)
iss ayat say ye baat zaher hotti hai k Alah ki madad hassil karnay k liye humain wasila talash karna ho ga jo k ALAH aur banday k darmian rabtay ka zarya banay.
is k ilawa sura e bakra mai hai
"Aur tum gharoun mai unkay darwazoun say dakhil hua karo aur Alah say daro takkay falah pa jao" (p2 al-bakra ayat 189)
iss ayat mai gharoun say murad maddi ghar ya maddi darwazay nahe hain.ghar say murad Alah tala ki hai aur darwazay say murad wasilay ya pher nabbi ki hai.jaisay k ghar mai janay k liye darwazay ki zarorat hotti hai isi trha Alah say rabta rakhnay k liye bhe kisi darwazay ki zarorat ho gi jo k beshak nabbi aur unki aal he hai.
yahan mai ek aur missal dena chahoun gi k hazarat ADAM a.s ko Alah nay apna khalifa bana k bheja tha jub adam a.s and huwa a.s ko zameen per utara gaya to dono mai judai ho gaye jiski waja say dono ko museebat aur pareshani ka samna karna parra.
jub hazarat adam Alah say dua kartay to unki dua kabool nahe hotti q k wasila nahe tha.pher jab hazarat adam nay wasilla istamaal kartay huay dua ki to wo kabool hue.
irshad e rabul izat hotta hai
"pas Ada a.s nay apnay parwardigar k kalmay sekhay unki barkat say Alah nay Adam ki iss bay mehel harkat say darguzar kiya bayshak wo darguzar karnay wala meherbaan hai"(p1 al-bakra ayat 37)
tafseer saffi page 29 aur kaffi mai IMAM JAFAR SADIQ a.s say mankool hai k wo kalmaat ye thay "AEY ALAH MUHAMMAD O AALEMOHAMMAD K WASILAY SAY MERI DUA KABOOL FARMA"
aur ye riwayat dar e manshoor sayoti (page 16 line 10) mai bhe mojood hai
is ayat say ye baat sabit ho gae k jub Alah ek nabbi k dua wasilay(jisay alah nay apnay aur banday k darmian zarya banaya hai) k bagair kabool nahe karta to pher hum insan wasillay ya uskay paak bandoun ki madad k bagair kaisay madad talab kar saktay hain.
in ayat aur dalaiil say ye sabit hua k nabbi pak ko YA MUHAMMAD ya pher YA MUHAMMAD MADAD keh kr pukarna hargiz galat nahe hai na he bayja akeedat hai.q k nabbi he to madad ka zarya hai.
ALAH HUM SUBKO NABBI O AAL E NABBI K WASILLAY SAY MANGNAY KI TAUFIK ATA FARMAE
AMEEN
Dont walk like as u r king walk like as u dnt care who the king is.

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by heartbreakking on Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:45 pm

Well very logical Post.
Am Impressed. May God Bless you.
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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by baychain on Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:34 am

THANKX ALOT SIR
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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Anoosh Tariq on Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:33 am

hummm main is per tabsira nahin ker sakta b-coz mera itna elm nahin hey our wese bhi aap ki hi baat dhuraounga k jis ka jo masalk ya firqa huta hey who usi k hisaab se baat kerta hey aap ka jo nazarya hey apni jagha durust huga isi terah mera jo khena ya batana hey who main behtar samjhta hun jese k meri nazar main Waseeley se murad Hazoor Salallahu Alahi Wasallam ki ittibah hey yani Aap Salallahu Alahi Wasallam k batey huey tarieeqey per chal ker hum Allah se madad maang saktey hain Allah yaqeenqa hamri Dua Qabool bhi karey ga agar hum Us k Nabi Salallahu Alahi Wasallam ki pervi kainr gey... wese bhi Ikhtilaf-e-ray tu her jagha huta hey kher Allah hamain Sirat-e-mustaqeem per chaley ye hi uda hey.

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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by heartbreakking on Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:48 pm

Anoosh Tariq wrote:hummm main is per tabsira nahin ker sakta b-coz mera itna elm nahin hey our wese bhi aap ki hi baat dhuraounga k jis ka jo masalk ya firqa huta hey who usi k hisaab se baat kerta hey aap ka jo nazarya hey apni jagha durust huga isi terah mera jo khena ya batana hey who main behtar samjhta hun jese k meri nazar main Waseeley se murad Hazoor Salallahu Alahi Wasallam ki ittibah hey yani Aap Salallahu Alahi Wasallam k batey huey tarieeqey per chal ker hum Allah se madad maang saktey hain Allah yaqeenqa hamri Dua Qabool bhi karey ga agar hum Us k Nabi Salallahu Alahi Wasallam ki pervi kainr gey... wese bhi Ikhtilaf-e-ray tu her jagha huta hey kher Allah hamain Sirat-e-mustaqeem per chaley ye hi uda hey.

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100 % correct i do agree. But Bechain nay jo hawalay deya hain woh be Quran Majeed say hain saath main kuch books ka be hawala hain. Mara ilm be iss matter main bhot mahdoot hain. Magar per be Bechain ki baato main logic hain.
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Re: Aqeedat ya Gumrahi

Post by Smart Aleck on Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:18 am

Baychain jee... Jazak Allah!

Main Soora e Maaida ki uss aayet ko post kar reha hoon jis ka aap nay hawala diya hay...



Please mujhay bataiay keh iss main yeh matlab kahan hay keh "uski taraf pohonchnay k liye wassila talash karo".

Yehan to likha hay keh "Allah kay qurb ka waseela talaash karo."

Baychain jee... kiya QURB kay maani MADDAD hotay hain?

Hum her namaz main parhtay hain "Eeya ka naabuddo... Wa eeyaaka nastaeen" ... Yaani "Ay Allah hum teri hi ibaadat kartay hain aur tujh say hi maddad maangtay hain."

Yeh hum parthay hain na? To please humen bataaiay keh iss aayet main "Tujh say hi maddad maangtay hain" ka matlab kya hay?

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